Director brings fresh options to Cudahy Rec Department

November 2, 2016

By Sheila Julson

Executive Director Tina Kreitlow has invigorated the Cudahy Recreation Department with new programming that has caused participation to burgeon. PHOTO Jennifer Kresse

Executive Director Tina Kreitlow has invigorated the Cudahy Recreation Department with new programming that has caused participation to burgeon. PHOTO Jennifer Kresse

When Tina Kreitlow started as full-time director of the Cudahy Community Education and Recreation Department in 2013, she had many goals in mind.

Her main goal, though, was to generate excitement when the recreation guide hit residents’ mailboxes. “I want to give people a reason to open the rec guide every time it’s mailed to their house,” she said.

Her vision has come to fruition. The center now offers a plenitude of recreation options that range from youth sports programs, family outings, movie nights, and fun adult programs like sausage making, soap making, using essential oils, foodie tours including that of the Milwaukee’s custard stands, to wine making, and the Yeti Dash — a winter snowshoe race, and many more.

Like that of Milwaukee and several suburban areas, Cudahy’s rec department is operated by the school district, versus those that are run by municipalities. Before Kreitlow’s tenure, the executive director position was part-time. A part-time secretary and school principals were charged with dedicating time to the program.

The rec department took a back seat to the academic needs, Kreitlow said, until Cudahy School District Superintendent Dr. James Heiden ramped up an effort to get more participation and involvement in the rec department.

In 2012-2013, 1,994 children and adults participated in its programs. Three years later, after Kreitlow was hired, the number burgeoned to 13,797. Of those, 75 to 80 percent were Cudahy residents.

Kreitlow said the swimming programs draw a diverse mix of South Shore residents from Cudahy but also St. Francis, South Milwaukee, Bay View, and Oak Creek.

“When you dedicate the resources to a project, you’re going to see different results,” she said. “Our first priority is youth. Our school board is very concerned with getting more youth involved in our community. Then we focused on our adult programs, and those really help offset the cost of our youth programs, which are offered at a nominal fee.”

Kreitlow and her staff heard from parents who desired opportunities for higher levels of competition for younger-aged children.

In response, they created programs tailored to be developmentally friendly for different age groups. First and second graders participate in an instructional league, where they experience league-style play, wear team shirts, and play against other teams, but the majority of their participation is focused on instructional development. The referees don’t blow the whistles every time a child does something wrong and scores are not kept. These leagues meet once a week.

Emily Borck is intently engaged with her art project at the Cudahy Recreation Department. PHOTO Jennifer Kresse

Emily Borck is intently engaged with her art project at the Cudahy Recreation Department. PHOTO Jennifer Kresse

The third and fourth grade leagues meet two times a week, and the fifth and sixth grade leagues, three times per week. As the children mature and grow older, they are exposed to more competition. Kreitlow says it’s a format that has been well received.

Fall sports offerings include basketball, soccer, and introduction to tennis and football. Other options include tae kwon do, dance, pom-poms, a Latino club, fashion design, and more. There are also preschool and family programs and activities such as family movie nights, a pumpkin farm outing, and pet care  education.

The aquatic program, which Kreitlow highlights as the most popular of the department’s offerings, includes many different swim lessons and water exercise classes for adults and children, including group and private swim lessons, synchronized swimming, Flick and Float movie nights, and regular open swim sessions. Both Cudahy High School and Cudahy Middle School have 25 yard, six lane pools. The pool at the middle school, used for most swim activities, was recently upgraded with new paint, illumination, and underwater lights.

Kreitlow said the department holds water safety in high regard. During the 2013-2014 year, the department gave 175 kids swim lessons; in 2015-2016, they taught 1,675 kids. Kreitlow noted that when the South Shore YMCA closed, Heiden and the Cudahy school board foresaw that the biggest consequence the community would face was a dearth of swim lessons.

“We want to be sure our kids have access to affordable and quality swim,” Kreitlow said, “Some private swim schools are cost prohibitive for a lot of families on the South Shore. Swimming is not only exercise, but also a life skill. We give every second grader in the community water safety and basic swim lessons for free, as part of the school day.”

Adult Fun

Kreitlow introduced scores of new options for adults. She partnered with Northern Brewing to offer an introduction to beer, wine, and mead making and partnered with Anodyne Coffee to offer an introduction to coffee roasting. There are also classes in making essential oils making, soap making, glass blowing, scuba diving, pretzel making, plus yoga and fitness classes and day excursions.

“I think about things I would like to do, and I ask the staff at the district office what they’d like,” Kreitlow said, “Or when I’m out and about, I get ideas and find somebody who can teach that class.” She said the unique workshops have been successful, as they parlay on the experiential learning/DIY trend. The department tries to be responsive to that, while keeping fees affordable.

Most of its fitness instructors have been with the department for many years. Kreitlow observed that people seem to gravitate toward instructors rather than the types of fitness classes, so they try to recruit those who already have a following. The department offers a punch card program for those who are not able to accommodate classes that take place over multiple weeks. Rec users are able to purchase a punch card for five, 10, or 15 classes that they can use it to attend the classes of their choice.

Kreitlow said that punch cards work well for adults who travel for work and others who can’t commit to a seven-week session. The card also provides flexibility by providing an opportunity for those who aren’t sure, for example, if they want to try Zumba, yoga, or another martial arts. With the punch card, they are able to sample activities to see which they prefer.

“With everything we do, we ask, how do we make this as user friendly as possible for the community, and how do I grab their attention?” Kreitlow said.

The annual winter Yeti Dash, a tongue-in-cheek reference to the abominable snowman in Nepalese folklore, is a snowshoe race held near Warnimont Park, near the Kelly Senior Center. The event started in 2014 as a fundraiser to launch the department’s summer camps and to raise money to hire and train instructors and purchase equipment.

Kreitlow said they have fun with the Yeti theme. Someone fitted out with a Yeti costume hides behind a tree along the trail. She said the event draws, on average, 85 participants. Last winter’s unusually mild weather caused the event to be postponed to April. The department partners with Erehwon Mountain Outfitter and Northern Lites Snowshoes who provide snowshoes to participants. CG Schmidt sponsors the event.

The kids’ summer camps have been successful, Kreitlow said, and affordable. The cost is approximately $99 per week, compared to prices charged by the former Cudahy YMCA, which cost as much as $240 per week for nonmembers and $171 for members. The department integrated specialty camps into the traditional summer camps. One is centered on sports, one on arts, and another on exploration, which employed MythBusters’ style scientific methods to test the validity of rumors, myths, and stories. The junior vet camp featured a veterinarian who discussed his work, and included a tour of Milwaukee Area Domestic Animal Control Commission (MADACC).

In 2014, the first year the program was offered, the 10 week summer camp drew an average of 37 children per week. By 2016, participation grew to an average of 95 per week.

Kreitlow said they would take up to 125 kids next year, and bring back the former, popular reading camp. They may also offer a teen camp to teach leadership skills.

Human Service Career

Kreitlow, a Wauwatosa native, originally wanted to be a police officer. After a yearlong internship with the Wauwatosa Police Department, she decided law enforcement wasn’t for her.

I’d rather be on the preventative side than the punitive side,” she said.

She spent 16 years with the YMCA of Metropolitan Milwaukee and seven for the YMCA of Greater New York. Her accomplishments include running a school–based community center in the Queens borough of New York City, and opening the first skate park near Flushing, also in Queens. She built and opened the Chinatown YMCA in Manhattan, as part of a mixed-use development that includes apartments and a Whole Foods store.

Kreitlow returned to Milwaukee in 2007 and worked as executive director for the South Shore YMCA until she started her current position with the Cudahy Rec Department in 2013. She has a bachelor’s degree in sociology from UW-Whitewater and master’s degree in human services administration from Springfield College in Massachusetts.

She began working at the YMCA when she was 16 at the West Suburban YMCA in Wauwatosa, where among other things, she coached youth sports.

The Cudahy Recreation Department is open to all, but non-Cudahy residents pay slightly higher fees than residents.

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South Shore Recreation Venues

Many recreation departments have vast offerings for adults and children so they can get moving, learn a new skill, and meet neighbors. From youth and adults sports to arts, crafts, outdoor excursions, foreign language, financial education, and more, they offer resources for personal enrichment at a nominal fee.

Milwaukee Recreation is operated by Milwaukee Public Schools. In Bay View, Milwaukee Rec programs are offered at Beulah Brinton Community Center, with limited program options at Bay View High School (boys and girls pool) and Parklawn Educational Complex. According to, Beulah Brinton, 2555 S. Bay St., is Milwaukee Rec’s only stand-alone community center, serving people of all ages. Youth programs at Beulah Brinton include baton, ballet, basketball, a toddler playgroup, and tae kwon do. Adult fitness at Beulah Brinton includes Zumba, yoga, volleyball, and several activities for seniors such as bingo, cards, pool, darts, and a senior lunch program.

Price Comparison

Bitty Basketball (ages 5 to 6): Beulah Brinton: $14 residents/$28 nonresidents

Community Open Swim: South Division High School Pool: free (participants must bring towel, suit, and swim cap)

Adult Enrichment: Salsa Making, Beulah Brinton: $25 residents/$37.50 nonresidents

Cudahy Community Recreation and Education

Biddy Basketball (ages 3 though 7): $20 resident/$25 nonresident

Open Swim: coupon books $40 for 20 visits; $53 for 30 visits; fall seasonal pass $60 for adults; $30 for youth; $80 family pass

Adult Enrichment: Coffee-roasting Workshop: $7

St. Francis School District Recreation Department

Facilities include St. Francis High School, Deer Creek Intermediate School, and Willow Glen Primary School. Programs include youth sports such as basketball, tennis, soccer, and dance; adult programs include exercise/fitness. The district offers aquatics and martial arts programs for children and adults. They offer adult fitness classes, but no community education classes were listed in the 2016 fall guide.

Youth Basketball (Grade 3 thru 8); Partners with South Milwaukee youth basketball: $83

Open Swim (Deer Creek Pool): Residents: $2 for students; $4 adults; $3 seniors/nonresidents: $4 students. Nonresidents: $6 adults; $5 seniors (prices per session); adult punch cards $40 for 12 visits

Adult: Butts N Guts with Yoga fitness class: $25 resident/$45 nonresident

School District of South Milwaukee Recreation Department

Basketball, soccer, wrestling, and running opportunities for youth, as well as a theater workshop are offered. Adults can take classes in computer skills, finance, and several exercise and dance classes. Youth swim lessons are held at the South Milwaukee Middle School Pool.

Youth basketball (Grade 3 thru 8): $48 residents/$58 nonresidents

Swim lessons (no open swim listed in fall 2016 recreation flier): Age 2 to 5 or 6 to 12 (various levels): $44 resident/$54 nonresident

Adult Education: Computer Basics: $20 resident/$30 nonresident

Sheila Julson is a freelance writer and regular contributor to the Bay View Compass. 

PAREN(T)HESIS — Milwaukee tap water safety

November 2, 2016

By Jill Rothenbueler Maher

NEW Jill Maher Headshot Dec 2013We often hear that children can drown in a very small amount of water. To help stay safe, parents take their children to swimming lessons at St. Ann Center or Milwaukee Recreation. But recently we’ve been reminded that water can harm children in a very different way: it can contain lead which harms children when ingested. Kids should have zero lead in their bodies and they should be tested for it as many as three times by age three.

Lead can enter our water through several sources, and a big concern is the pipe that runs from the water main into the home. For homes built before 1947, which includes mine and all my local friends’ homes, the pipe contains lead unless it was replaced. When water sits idle in that pipe, it can pick up the lead and carry it into our home and through our faucets.

Water concerns take me back to childhood. People who lived in the greater Milwaukee area in 1993 certainly remember the cryptosporidium outbreak that year. We heard about restaurants getting ice shipped from Chicago to ensure it was safe. Cryptosporidium jokes temporarily replaced ones about the Bears or Vikings.

At my parents’ home in an older New Berlin neighborhood, I was consuming water from a private well unaffected by the outbreak. But hearing about Milwaukee’s water issue from the nightly news on the kitchen TV meant that many of us looked at a glass of water in a different way. Then the fear waned and worrywarts got more concerned with things like BPA getting into food from can linings and plastic bottles.

Local Lead Concern

Now that I live in beloved Bay View, I was concerned when I heard Mayor Barrett warning residents about the city’s drinking water and recommending home filters. The concern doesn’t end at the doorstep. We received a letter that Milwaukee Public Schools is testing the water our daughter sips from the school bubbler, and my husband and I both drink tap water at Milwaukee workplaces.

Friends say they are very worried about the safety of drinking water, especially for their children. It seems reasonable that in smaller bodies, contaminants can have a larger effect. Infants drinking formula made with tap water may be getting constant doses of lead from their earliest days. The way I see it, kids’ health is more of a worry than our adult bodies, which aren’t doing the hard work of growing.

The attitude seems to be worry mixed with feeling overwhelmed, when they research filters. Despite the concern, being overwhelmed can lead to inaction. I myself wonder whether our refrigerator’s filter is adequate but haven’t taken the time to research it. Unfortunately we can’t just fill jugs at the Pryor Avenue artesian well and feel safe because it’s afflicted with excessively high strontium levels.

Recent concern about the quality of drinking water reaches beyond Milwaukee. We’ve probably all heard about massive problems in Flint, Mich., and I recently learned of less publicized problems with well contamination in Kewaunee County and Door County, Wis. There, the issue is not from lead pipes but from contaminants due to agricultural use of manure. As many as one third of Door County’s wells are contaminated according to the Green Bay Press Gazette’s reporting on comments made by State Rep. Joel Kitchens. Door County is typically considered a wealthy area so its problems illustrate that unsafe drinking water isn’t an issue that affects only impoverished urban areas.

Here at home, I plan to keep doing what our home inspector recommended when we purchased our home years ago — make sure we don’t consume the water that was lying stagnant in the main overnight. For example, upon waking in the morning I’m sure to flush the toilet and use water in other ways before pouring it into a tea kettle. I’m concerned that recent demolition in the area could shake lead loose. I’ve called the State Lab of Hygiene at (800) 442-4618 to get a bottle for a lead test. It’ll cost us about $30 and we’ll get results in 10 days.

What You Can Do

You can check whether you home’s water service line has been replaced with a lead-free pipe on the City of Milwaukee website: The page offers information that helps homeowners determine whether or not the previous owners changed the pipe.

Furthermore, the City of Milwaukee Health Department recommends any households with residents or visitors that include children under the age of 6, and women who are pregnant or breastfeeding should also:

Only use bottled water from a known lead-free source or cold, filtered tap water (use an NSF/ANSI Standard 53 certified water filtration device) to make formula, concentrated juices, and for cooking and drinking. If using water directly from the faucet, use only water from the cold water tap that has been well-flushed for a minimum of three minutes.

Test children for blood lead level. Follow the “3 before 3” guidance by testing children for elevated blood lead levels three times before the age of 3. 

More Steps to Consider

Purchase a home filtration system. Find a list of products at   or call Customer Service, (414) 286-2830. Drinking water filtration systems or pour-through filters can reduce or eliminate lead. Look for products certified by NSF/ANSI under Standard 53 for removal of lead and follow the manufacturer’s guidelines for installing and maintaining the filter. 

Replace your lead service line or interior plumbing using a licensed plumber. Call the Milwaukee Water Works, (414) 286-3710, for more information.

Have your water tested for lead from a source like the State Lab of Hygiene at 800-442-4618. Find a full list of laboratories at (click “L” in the alphabetized list) or call Customer Service, 414-286-2830. 

Flush your plumbing after any water utility work or internal plumbing work. Physical disturbance of the lead service line or lead plumbing by activities such as water main replacement, service line leaks, home plumbing repair, water meter replacement, or main breaks may release lead into the water.

List of water filters recommended. 

Source: City of Milwaukee

The author is a freelance writer and mother of one. Reach her with comments or suggestions at

UPDATE: This article was updated to reflect that the water is piped to homes in Milwaukee from the water main, not the sewer, as was originally stated.


HALL MONITOR — With MPS on the way up, time to boost high schools too

November 2, 2016

By Jay Bullock

Jay1headshotIn September, I was pessimistic about education in general and urban education in particular. In October, I was optimistic about the Milwaukee Public Schools, vindicated by an announcement two weeks later that MPS was no longer labeled failing by the state.

Time to swing my pendulum back the other way, to pessimism.

The state’s announcement that MPS was no longer at the bottom should not lead anyone to complacency; while the improvement is surely due to better student achievement, it’s also because the state now adds student growth in addition to student achievement, expanding ways for low-performing students to count in a district’s favor rather than against it. So MPS has more work to do, especially when it comes to its high schools.

I write about high schools more than anything else, in part because it’s where I work and have some expertise. But I also do so because high school is both the place in K-12 education where a district’s failures become most manifest and the toughest level to reform successfully.

An example. As MPS crowed about its newfound not-failing status, it bragged most heavily about boosts to elementary achievement. While an op-ed penned by Superintendent Darienne Driver did note increases in a key high school metric — number of students in Advanced Placement or International Baccalaureate classes — no AP or IB exam results were listed. Why? State data show that while college-prep enrollment is rising in MPS, achievement on the exams is not.

Another example. In September, the University of Wisconsin system reported how many of its 2015-2016 freshman class, the ones who graduated from public and private Wisconsin high schools in 2015, needed remedial English or math classes. Up to four-fifths of graduates from some MPS schools needed at least one remedial class.

The MPS class of 2015 was the first to graduate under Driver. If, as I suggested last month, her presence atop of the district is itself a driver of success (no pun intended), students graduating from here on out will, I hope, have more success.

There are some early positive signs for high schools, from improved ACT scores to better attendance rates. MPS has partnered with local chefs for a culinary arts training program, including at Bay View High School, and one high school is part of the district’s “community schools” initiative getting extra support for students and families.

But there are some worries, too. MPS is still having a devil of a time attracting high school math, science, and special education teachers; half the 60-plus teacher job openings listed on the MPS website as I write are for just those three categories.

As a recent excellent investigation into the effects of Act 10 (the 2011 Wisconsin law that stripped public employee unions of most rights to bargain over salary, benefits, and working conditions) by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel found, MPS is at a huge disadvantage today. MPS can’t afford “signing bonuses” or bigger salaries for high-needs areas. It’s more likely MPS teachers get poached away from MPS than the other way around.

It doesn’t help that teachers who sign on or stay in MPS are burning out under odious paperwork loads and seemingly endless meetings. Our time to prep and plan and decompress away from students is filled with mundane or insulting “professional development.”

Last year I wrote that teacher retention could be boosted if MPS would start listening to its teachers — a message that I’m not sure landed. The district recently sought input from teachers on the quality of all that professional development, but scheduled the focus groups on parent-teacher conference nights and at times guaranteeing high school teachers could not attend.

And for all the great work MPS has done at bringing back arts and music, we are starving for librarians and guidance counselors. MPS really pushes the idea of college, and foists the PSAT test on every student twice, in addition to the state-mandated ACT test. That UW report showing so many MPS students need remedial classes suggests we should do more to make sure students are not just good at taking tests but also at making better college-related decisions. That takes a bigger investment in counselors and counseling time.

I’m not saying we throw up our hands and surrender; the recent good news indicates we should keep pushing. But without help for high schools, too, the successes MPS is seeing in lower grades are simply not sustainable.

Jay Bullock teaches English at Bay View High School and shows his usual pessimism on Twitter as @folkbum.

Frolics meeting sparks fireworks

November 2, 2016

By Katherine Keller

small-fireworks-free-artMore than 200 people gathered at a public meeting in the South Shore Park Pavilion Wednesday, Oct. 26, hosted by Milwaukee Ald. Tony Zielinski and Milwaukee County Sup. Marina Dimitrijevic. The topic was the South Shore Frolics.

Zielinski and Dimitrijevic moderated the meeting that they characterized as one in a series of actions they would take to assess the “wishes and desires” of the public.

Over the past five years, numerous public meetings have been held by Zielinski and Dimitrijevic to address the complaints of some Bay View residents who live near South Shore Park where the annual three-day Frolics festival is held. Litter, trespassing, public drunkenness, traffic, parking, security, and fireworks noise levels have been their chief complaints.

After a short introduction by Zielinski and Dimitrijevic, who also introduced Bay View Lions members Lyn Graziano and Angela Lederhaus, the meeting was opened to comment. Attendees were asked to state whether or not they supported the Frolics. They were also asked to comment on whether or not they supported restricting the fireworks to the Friday and Saturday night festivities. However, the latter question evolved quickly to: Do you support the fireworks and do you support or oppose the portion of the fireworks finale known as Blow Up the Beach? — a series of successive explosions that increases in decibels.

The responses echoed those made by commenters at all of the previous Frolics public meetings — the Frolics are a beloved family tradition, a beloved piece of Bay View’s cultural history, and a festival that charges no admission and provides an opportunity for anyone to attend.

Elaine Bergstrom, who said she lives two blocks from the park, told the audience that three generations of her family have attended the Frolics. “This is our park. This is a family friendly festival. I love the Frolics and fireworks,” she said, adding that the festival has “grown and grown and grown” over the years. She suggested that a larger venue might be considered for future festivals, perhaps Warnimont Park, so that the Frolics can continue to grow.

Jim Wing, owner of W.B. Bottle Supply Company, who sponsors the fireworks each year, spoke of the festival as a beloved family tradition, one where he can show his children and grandchildren a “damn good time.” He said the Frolics provides his family and others’ with the opportunity to see old friends from the old days. One of the reasons he is proud to sponsor the fireworks, he said, is standing at the top of the hill after the display to listen to the people on the hill. “It doesn’t cost them a thing. I hear their response and I know it’s an amazing thing,” he said.

Another speaker said she was disappointed when she “heard the bombings” at the 2016 Frolics because she had been told that the Blow Up the Beach finale had been canceled. She said she texted her complaint to Supervisor Dimitrijevic and that Dimitrijevic responded saying she herself felt the percussions all the way to Puddlers Hall, which is near Dimitrijevic’s home. The speaker said, “I am not opposed to the Frolics, the fireworks, or family fun. I am opposed to the explosions that harm the environment.”

Cary Solberg, a member of Friends of South Shore Park, said that his organization believes the Lions have a right to use the park but that the litter generated by the Frolics was a concern, as well as debris left by the fireworks themselves.

Many said they want the Lions to bring back the Frolics Parade. In response, Lyn Graziano said they are already actively seeking funding for a parade in 2017.

Booing broke out three times in response to some opinions expressed by commenters but was quickly subdued by the moderators, with one exception. At the end of the meeting when Zielinski attempted to take a “nonbinding yes or no vote” about permitting the Blow Up the Beach for the 2017 Frolics, he indicated that he wanted the vote restricted to those who lived in his district, prompting a large number of audience members to become agitated and shout its opposition.

Unable to quell the eruption, Zielinski abruptly terminated the vote and ended the meeting.

Commenting on the vote the day after the meeting, Dave Reszel, Bay View Lions member and the group’s spokesperson, said, “All could speak in front of the audience but then not have a vote? That made no sense. …If Tony wants to get a response from just his district maybe he should do a mailing or a ballot to his district only.

“Let’s be frank, the opposition to the Frolics comes from those in the immediate neighborhood adjacent to the park, and, even then, not all of them, as we heard last night, are opposed at all to the Frolics ‘as is.’ Some like the Frolics but seek some change and some are totally opposed. So even in the adjacent neighborhood, there is a mixed bag of opinion. Beyond the immediate area, there is complete support of the Frolics. Of course we understand that those that are closest are impacted the most, but even with those impacted the most, there is still a good amount of support to have the event unchanged. That was very, very clear.”

Dimitrijevic said that the intention of the vote was to assess the disposition of attendees, not to make decisions as a result of it. She said she thought all in attendance should have been given the opportunity to vote, but that more weight assigned to those who lived in her or Zielinski’s district. She stressed that the vote was designed to gather feedback and was not intended to be binding.

By contrast, Zielinkski, also commenting the day after the meeting, insisted that the vote should have been restricted to his constituents, like those of all public meetings he holds, since he wants to represent their views when he makes decisions about city permits, in this case, the 2017 Frolics. “The meeting was held to gauge the public’s support and to make as many people as possible happy, to find common ground. But if you don’t live in the district, your vote doesn’t count. I am elected to represent my constituents’ interests, wishes, and desires.”

Reszel said he kept detailed notes of the speakers’ comments. “There was not a mandate or consensus to change any specifics. In fact, of the 25 people that spoke in front of the audience, 17 expressed a desire to leave the status quo. Even of the 8 that had ‘suggestions’ for Frolics improvement, many stated some positives regarding the Frolics. It was clear the overwhelming majority were in favor of, and support the Frolics as is.”

Dimitrijevic and Zielinski were each escorted from the meeting to their respective car by three security personnel provided by L. Johns Services. Les Johns, proprietor, said that Lyn Graziano contacted him to request security for the two officials.

Dimitrijevic and Zielinski each arrived at their car with no threat or incident, Johns said.

Johns is a member of the Bay View Lions.