Firestorm over proposed adult day care center on Lincoln overblown?
August 3, 2011
By Michael Timm
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An adult day care facility is proposed for this vacant building at 206 E. Lincoln Ave., but the city’s Board of Zoning Appeals must first approve the change in use from industrial office to special use. The building is owned by Klement Company across the street and is leased by Latasha Hines, who owns and operates Adult Day Services of Wisconsin LLC.
A day care center for seniors with Alzheimer’s and dementia proposed for Lincoln Avenue has ignited a firestorm of opposition from nearby neighbors and business owners who fear it will mean loitering by the mentally ill and lead to decreased property values.
But based on the facts available about the proposal, these fears may be overblown.
Some of the community reaction seems based on misinformation that circulated following the June 27 notice of public hearing sent to all property owners within 200 feet of 206 E. Lincoln Ave. That’s where Latasha Hines of Wauwatosa wants to open a new location of her business, Adult Day Services of Wisconsin LLC.
Fearful of the prospect of an adult day care opening across the alley from their front yard, the owner-occupants immediately behind the property, Kyle and Melain Talbott at 249 E. Ward St., circulated a petition of protest. They quickly obtained 23 signatures from other Bay View residents, including three from owners of local businesses: Baby Boomers Bar & Grill, Lulu Café & Bar, and Tonic Tavern.
The Proposal
So, what kind of adult day care is proposed? The kind that looks after seniors with special needs while younger family caregivers are away at work, according to Hines.
“A lot of times older seniors can’t be left alone and the older children need to go to work or do other things,” said Hines, who already operates Adult Day Services of Wisconsin LLC out of 6507 W. Fairview Ave. in Milwaukee and lists a Wauwatosa Post Office Box as her address.
“We feel this type of business adds nothing positive to our community and, in fact, has the potential to create more of the problems we already face.”
—Cameryne Roberts, Lulu Café and Bar
Her day care on Lincoln Avenue would serve adults in five state-identified categories: “advanced aged, developmentally disabled, emotionally disturbed/illness, physically disabled, and irreversible dementia/Alzheimer’s,” according to Hines’ plan of operation submitted to the city’s Board of Zoning Appeals, which must approve a zoning change to allow the business.
According to state Department of Health Services documentation, Hines is already registered to serve all those categories except “physically disabled.” Documentation indicates her current location has a capacity of six.
Hines said she’d been looking for months for a place to expand her business. She found the Bay View space, a 4,950-square-foot vacant building most recently occupied by exacTemp Heating and Air. It’s owned by Klement Company, the sausage maker headquartered across the street, and Hines said she’s already leasing the space. Before exacTemp, it was home to Salvage Heaven and before that, E.D. Wesley Co., a plumbing and heating contractor.
Hines said she liked the available street and off-street parking, the building’s size, and that it has an outdoor yard with a gate.
The Lincoln Avenue location would employ six caretakers full-time and four part-time, according to her proposal, with four employees per shift. It would operate seven days a week from 6am to 9pm. She said the number of clients would be determined by the state.
Her plan includes the following services: “promote senior health, daily supervision, personal and supportive care assistance, breakfast, lunch and dinner meal preparation, social interaction, social stimulation, exercise regimen, library, arts/crafts, help with cognitive function, provide medication reminders, transportation if needed, and scheduled outings.”
Her plan estimates traffic of four to six vans per day.
Hines said her father has Alzheimer’s and she’s been caring for him for eight years. She said she’s always been helping people. Of her proposed center, Hines said, “It’s nothing to be afraid of. It’s actually a good thing.”
Misinformation & Fear
But there has been fear.
The Compass obtained several emails in early July with misleading information about the proposal. One email alleged that the center would cater to sex offenders and drug addicts.
This is simply false, Hines said.
An email also alleged that Hines’ center would be financed with federal stimulus money.
The Compass has found no evidence to suggest this.
After her item was pulled from the July 7 Board of Zoning Appeals agenda (see sidebar), Hines told the Compass she would no longer comment when asked questions.
But her proposal has touched a deep nerve in the neighborhood about who belongs and who doesn’t.
The Opposition
On Lulu’s letterhead, business co-owner Cameryne Roberts outlined her opposition in a July 1 letter to BOZA. “We feel this type of business adds nothing positive to our community and, in fact, has the potential to create more of the problems we already face,” Roberts wrote. “We already have more than our share of mentally ill and drug abusing residents a half block away from our building, not to mention as close as next door to Lulu. While many of these residents are stable members of our community, there are many who still are not. We have regular issues with public drunkenness and urination in our parking lot, malt liquor litter in front and behind the building, and the panhandling of our customers.”
“It’s nothing to be afraid of. It’s actually a good thing.”
—Latasha Hines, Adult Day Services of Wisconsin LLC
Roberts then referred to a recent incident involving an “unstable individual” from a rooming house next door to Lulu. “Police closed the street in front of our business and donned full protective gear to subdue and arrest this man who attacked another elderly neighbor and his adult son and then went on to threaten city workers along Lincoln Avenue.”
Lulu’s co-owner then summed up her appeal to BOZA. “We have enough problems to deal with in an area that is trying hard to overcome years of neglect, absentee landlords, and apathy from some commercial building owners. Please do not push us backward by allowing such a business to open two blocks away from what is striving to become a vibrant and safe business and residential district.”
Resident Kyle Talbott was not shy about his reasons for opposing Hines’ proposal. Like Roberts, he said the neighborhood has taken steps forward, but felt this would be a step backward.
“These kinds of facilities are often placed in neighborhoods that are considered marginal neighborhoods and I don’t think the KK-and-Lincoln neighborhood deserves to be a marginal neighborhood,” he said. “I think we’ve worked really hard on that.”
The Talbotts argued the new center would unfairly concentrate too many establishments in the area serving a certain population—in this case, the mentally ill.
“It is generally difficult to take a walk around the neighborhood or patronize a business here without encountering evidence of the existing high concentration of persons with mental illness living in this neighborhood,” the Talbotts wrote to BOZA.
In an interview, Kyle Talbott pointed to Lincoln Court alone as evidence that “our neighborhood is already skewed.”
“Lincoln Court, a public assistance housing tower located at 2325 S. Howell Ave., only 0.19 miles from [the proposed center], already houses an ample number of residents with related illnesses…” the Talbotts wrote to BOZA. “Considering this high-density establishment alone, the KK-Lincoln neighborhood is located in a geographic concentration of related establishments. Adding further such establishments only serves to place this neighborhood under an unfair burden of accommodating individuals with special needs.”
Paul Williams, communications coordinator for Housing Authority of the City of Milwaukee, said many of Lincoln Court’s residents are dealing with income and health challenges. “I think Lincoln Court gets a bad rap sometimes, unfairly,” Williams said.
The Housing Authority’s Lincoln Court contains 110 units for the elderly and disabled. According to Williams, there are 105 people living in Lincoln Court; 64 are age 50 or older; 30 are between ages 40 and 50. Ninety residents have some kind of disability.
Alcohol or drug abuse is not considered a disability according to the Housing Authority, Williams said. He could not provide information about the number of residents with mental versus physical disabilities.
The Talbotts also expressed concern about loitering outside Hines’ proposed center by those who could be “a little bit unstable.” “It’s important to understand these are adults on their own recognizance,” Kyle Talbott said. He expects they’d also loiter around KK and Lincoln because there’s more to do and see.
Hines, however, said clients will be supervised at all times and won’t wander off.
The Quality of Life
For the Talbotts and those who signed their petition, opposing the center is a matter of protecting the quality of life and maintaining property values.
The signatories to the Talbotts’ petition undersigned the statement, “I respectfully urge the board to deny this appeal on the grounds that an adult day care center at this location will adversely affect the use, value, and enjoyment of my property as well as my use and enjoyment of this Bay View neighborhood generally.”
Of the 23 residential property owners within 200 feet of the proposed center whom BOZA notified by law, five signed the petition of protest. The rest of the signatories live beyond the 200-foot radius.
Proximity is a big issue to the couple next door.
“With the constant potential of strangers congregating 20 feet away, some of whom might be reasonably expected to occasionally exhibit unstable social behavior, [Melain Talbott] has expressed regret that if [Hines’] appeal is granted, her work in the yard will be tinged by wariness,” the Talbotts wrote to BOZA.
Kyle Talbott has owned his home for seven years, and said he’s concerned about his ability to sell it if the center opens.
“The whole reason we were attracted to Bay View to live in—it seemed like a neighborhood that was coming back,” Talbott said. “It’s not a marginal neighborhood anymore.”
Talbott also doesn’t trust that Hines wouldn’t eventually serve adults with substance abuse issues. “The only thing we have is her word,” he said.
But BOZA’s Lindsey St. Arnold said the board will review Hines’ proposed plan of operation and allow or reject only what the petitioner has proposed in her plan. “There’s no backdoor way of allowing what isn’t in there,” St. Arnold said.
At press time, Talbott was working to convince other business owners, including Alterra Coffee Roasters, to join in opposition.
“We haven’t found anybody actually supportive of this change in use,” Talbott said. “Everybody doesn’t think it’s a good idea. The concern, I think, is pretty obvious.”
Community Meeting Before Zoning Change Is Considered
The city’s Board of Zoning Appeals had been scheduled to consider Hines’ request for a special-use permit, which would allow her business there, on July 7. The special-use zoning is needed because the property is currently zoned “industrial office.”
The Talbotts sent their objection to 14th District Alderman Tony Zielinski by email July 1. Zielinski emailed BOZA July 2. “Please record my objection,” Zielinski wrote. “Will this be held over for a contested hearing?” (Contested items are scheduled separately to provide time for opposition testimony.)
The Talbotts’ letter of protest, along with their petition and a letter of protest from Lulu Café and Bar, was stamped as received by BOZA on July 5.
BOZA did not consider Hines’ petition for a special-use permit at its July 7 meeting. At press time the item has not yet been rescheduled, but the earliest it could come before BOZA is Sept. 22.
Before then, Alderman Zielinski has arranged for Hines to make a public presentation Wednesday, Aug. 3 at 6pm on site at 206 E. Lincoln Ave.
“I’m holding a meeting with the neighborhood on the proposal and reserving final judgment until we have that meeting,” Zielinski said. He said the voices of constituents in close proximity to the site will carry more weight with him than those farther away.
Zielinski said that while so far the majority of neighbors are opposed, he asked BOZA to hold the item because there hadn’t been opportunity for community input and people were reacting to secondhand information.
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Dawn Sanders on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 10:40 am
The neighbors have concern over loitering! Who are they kidding I live real close and that block is getto. A business may help it out.
Kristi Martin on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 1:18 pm
This is not a proposed halfway house for criminal offenders. It is a staffed, supervised daycare center.
I sincerely doubt that these disabled or elderly adults will be bringing in great revenue to the nearby bars, but they are unlikely to stand on the sidewalk and bark at people who approach. They usually leave that behavior to drunk college students and/or small children in “regular” daycare centers.
Shannon on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 1:24 pm
Shame on anyone trying to block this valuable service. Caring for a loved one thru Alzheimer’s is exhausting and the people who keep their loved ones in their home as long as possible should be commended. Sending them to supervised day care programs is a loving and safer option then leaving them locked in at home.
Comparing these clients to the rooming house tenants or anyone else Lulu’s owners deem undesirable is ridiculous. Who’s next? People with tattoos? Red hair? A suit and tie?
Bay View is about accepting everyone. No exclusions. I am shocked and disappointed in anyone participation in this petition.
Jessica on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 1:39 pm
Cafe Lulu disgusts me. I hope the owners never have a person with a mental disease in their family and never have to deal with the difficulty of taking care of these delicate individuals. I also live on this block and I completely support the opening of this facility. I hope that with more information, Ms. Roberts rescinds her scathing and pretentious comments.
Jessica on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 1:39 pm
Shannon you are exactly right!
Kerry on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 7:33 pm
As one of the afore mentioned neighbors, who did indeed sign the petition, let me clarify something that was left out of the so called balanced article. The article highlights Alzheimer patients. Our issue is not with that. Our issue is with the other items listed in the permit request such as “substance abuse problems” and more specifically “emotionally disturbed individuals”.
Although Lincoln, Ward, and Austin have seen challenges, this is not the business to get it going in a forward/prosperous direction.
I absolutely hope all of those who are in favor will attend the informational meeting Wednesday, August 3rd, @ 6p. It will be held at 206 E Lincoln.
bvcompass on Mon, 1st Aug 2011 10:23 pm
@Kerry
Read our article again. You’re conflating the Hines permit with the spectrum of maladies that are permitted by BOZA for the variance she’s seeking. The two are not the same. Hines’ services are restricted, and we accurately reported what Latasha Hines stated in the document she submitted to BOZA.
We have seen and read the PDF-copy of that document. It reads as we reported (you can find the text in the story above): “Her day care on Lincoln Avenue would serve adults in five state-identified categories: ‘advanced aged, developmentally disabled, emotionally disturbed/illness, physically disabled, and irreversible dementia/Alzheimer’s,’ according to Hines’ plan of operation submitted to the city’s Board of Zoning Appeals, which must approve a zoning change to allow the business.”
Note: Hines is not requesting a permit for a day care center for adult’s who are substance abusers or sex offenders, which information was also circulating in Bay View last month with regard to the facility.
Katherine Keller, Publisher, Bay View Compass
Jessika on Tue, 2nd Aug 2011 3:04 pm
I too am very saddened by the negative responses to this proposed adult day-care. I think people clearly just don’t know what an adult day-care is. Think of it as a day-care, literally, for adults. Are little kids allowed to go out and roam the streets unattended at a child day-care? No, so why would one think that adults would be allowed to do so at an adult day-care? I agree that the people behind this petition probably have not had mental illness affect their family or else they would approach this differently. I say the more facilities out there to care for the five types of individuals listed in the permit request, the better!
And to those who think these types of facilities should be in “marginal neighborhoods?” If your mother or father or another relative developed dementia and you could not care for them 24/7, what would you do? You’d probably talk with a social worker who would suggest taking the individual to an adult day-care for supervised care while you are gone. Would you want to take them to an adult day-care in a “marginal neighborhood?” Would you want to drive to 20th and Center every day to take your loved one to adult day-care? Absolutely not, if you had a choice, you would want to take them to someplace you felt was safe, so why try to push this adult day-care out of Bay View? I live in the southern portion of Bay View, near St. Ann’s. St. Ann’s provides day-care for adults with dementia and Alzheimers and I bet you couldn’t find a single neighbor who complains about the location of the facility or the clients of the facility. I just think people are not completely understanding what an adult day-care does and hopefully, with the full information, they will change their minds about the petition.
CarolV on Tue, 2nd Aug 2011 5:47 pm
Agree Jessika. If this is respite caregiving for working family members who otherwise couldn’t work out of their home due to caregiving responsibilities, this is a very good thing and likely would have services very similar to St. Ann’s Center (check out their adult day care services online to learn more about this type of program http://www.stanncenter.org/Adult ), also in Bay View and in a very residential neighborhood. For people with intellectual disabilities, significant physical disabilities or dementia-related disabilities, this is a way for them to engage in activities and interact with others receiving services also. Community-based care options are much preferred by families than putting their loved ones in nursing homes and, its much cheaper and more dignified as well. Many people with disabilities who receive Medicaid to pay for their services save taxpayers a great deal when they use preferred community-based care options. I don’t know enough about the specifically-proposed facility at this point but if it is intended as a caregiver respite program in a less restrictive environment than a nursing home, then this is potentially a good choice for families who need a caregiving break to work.
Maggie Benavides on Tue, 2nd Aug 2011 6:22 pm
I live on AUstin and Lincoln and I think this isnt a bad idea. That part of Lincoln needs some improvement and adding a business there will only help. There wont be wandering clients as its a daycare and they are supervised. It is so overblown.
Maggie Benavides on Tue, 2nd Aug 2011 10:53 pm
Also Baby Boomers shouldnt talk about how the daycare will bring down the neighborhood.
Its all misinformation and I was never approached with a petition being that I live so close. Im wondering if the ones that are signing these petitions are fully informed. I agree with what individuals have posted above…this is commmunity based care for families who are not able to take care of their loved ones during THE DAY….I highly doubt they will be wandering down Lincoln Ave dealing drugs and drinking.
Opposition to adult day care center in Bay View opposed by A/V writer Matt Wild : The Bay View Compass on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 9:55 am
[...] going on in Bay View, and, if you’re like me, you’ve heard curiously little about it. According to a story published yesterday by the Bay View Compass, a proposed “adult day care” at 206 E. Lincoln [...]
A. V. Club Milwaukee blogger Matt Wild chimes in on adult day care controversy in Bay View : The Bay View Compass on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 10:08 am
[...] on in Bay View, and, if you’re like me, you’ve heard curiously little about it. According to a story published yesterday by the Bay View Compass, a proposed “adult day care” at 206 E. Lincoln Ave. [...]
Ronnie Basaw on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 11:29 am
Fear is almost always a sad indication of ignorance. When you are able to set yourself apart and above people with problems, you succeed only in limiting yourself from a wealth of amazing opportunities. Proceed with caution.
John T on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 3:18 pm
Well, thanks for providing me with another restaurant to cross off my list of places to go. I hope your ‘neighbors’ can provide you with the business you need. I wonder if there would be such chagrin if the establishment was aiming to help homeless LGBT kids and young adults.
Shannon on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 4:49 pm
I can say that I will never step foot in Cafe LuLu again. I am a proud Bay View resident, and I would hope that other residents will stand up for this facility. The comments made by the people in this article are ignorant. I have always thought of our neighborhood as forward thinking and better than this. The bars at bar time cause more issues than what the people in this care center will cause. Maybe Cameryne Roberts should focus more on the drunks that leave her bar at bar time, or the speeding cars that drive down Howell daily…They are the real issue, not the elderly in need of a safe place to go.
AK on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 9:26 pm
I’m not really sure that the adult day center is really the issue here. I live a few buildings down from the giant housing project on Howell, and anyone who says that there isn’t a problem with this place needs to open their eyes. I have seen multiple drug deals (like almost daily) take place in the parking lot, seen residents smoking joints openly outside on the lawn, been spit at by residents, and had 2 residents (on separate occasions) pass out on the sidewalk in front of my apartment door.
I think Lulu’s has it right. Lets fix this dump before we add another potentially negligent business occupy our neighborhood. The owner of this new business, unfortunately, is getting a bum deal because housing authority has let their place become a drug house. But she should have contacted the neighbors before she signed the lease.
Maggie Benavides on Wed, 3rd Aug 2011 11:39 pm
What makes an adult daycare center potentially negligent? And no one complains about shady bars in the neighborhood that allows drug dealing and usage in their establishment? A housing unit is much different then an adult day care center. Have you seen St. Anns near Thomas More HS? That is an adult daycare (bigger in size however) and it seems to be functioning ok next to a school. That housing on Howell is a completely different topic..maybe all this energy should be focused on that building instead of a business that actually allows families more options for their loved ones.
AK on Thu, 4th Aug 2011 1:03 am
A day center built in a building that formerly housed a salvage business probably isn’t the right use of that facility. Major improvements would be needed to make this a proper space for those needing a safe area that could accommodate their disabilities. Therefore, I’m not sure of the quality that her service could provide. If you have seen that building, trust me, it’s no Saint Ann’s. It also sounds like she will not be providing medical services, so there is much less regulation as well. Saint Ann’s is considered a nursing facility. Much, much different.
But that is neither here nor there. The real issue it that the neighbors have had enough of the housing building a block away. Also the zoning currently does not permit her desired use for the building on Lincoln. The city needs to remedy the facilities in the area that do deal with disability services before they issue permits for more.
It is unfortunate that she got caught up in this. If she had chosen a building a few blocks in any direction, I’m not sure anyone would have even noticed or cared. But she signed a lease without a guarantee of a permit. She is now the person that should be advocating the city to fix the other nearby issues so businesses like hers can, at least, have a chance.
Ann Treinen on Thu, 4th Aug 2011 9:46 am
While I don’t live in this area, reading this makes me sad. My father is terminally ill and we’ve been taking care of him at my parents house for over a year now. In the beginning stages when daily nursing was needed, having this option for my mom or for us kids would have been a blessing. Comparing this individuals who have a serious illness that they got NOT by choice to criminals or drunks is absurd and sad. These clients are going to be taken care of like child daycare would be. Do daycares for children let the kids run around the streets? If they do, there’s plenty lawsuits there from the parents. For all the families out there in situations similar to my family, having this as an option would be a blessing. Trying to work full time AND help take care of an ailing parent 5 times a week, the travel involved, etc. is very difficult. I do it though because I want to AND wouldn’t have it any other way. But having this as an option for those who can is a wonderful and I thank the owners for doing this.
Madmanmikey on Thu, 4th Aug 2011 10:48 am
So let me see if I understand this – three bars are aghast that six riotous seniors with dementia will invade their neighborhood and disrupt ” its current level of “regular issues with public drunkenness and urination in our parking lot, malt liquor litter in front and behind the building, and the panhandling of our customers.”
You know, that’s sort of precious when you think of it.
Right now I manage a family oriented business located right next door to a mental health living center with over 50 clients there on a 24/7 basis. While I cannot first hand speak for the the proposed care center in Bayview, I can tell you that the center next to us does a great job of caring for (and publicly policing, if that is what you need to hear) their clients.
Of all the people there we deal with one persistent and annoying panhandler, a dozen guys who act out on the grounds of the facility and nowhere else and a number of men that are a “normal” part of our community.
If your concern is that these people might not fit in with the present decoration and design standard of the community you are probably right – the likely will not be dressed “right”(according to the current community norms). But keep perspective – these are six people from a needy background and likely not even distantly related to the Visgoths and Huns you envision.
M Allen on Thu, 4th Aug 2011 2:29 pm
It seems to me that a quality adult day care center (St. Ann’s comes to mind) should not be something to fear. I don’t see how adults in need of and under supervision pose any threat or offer any good reason to be fearful. Equating it to a public housing facility is absurd.
Sure, as a long time Bay Viewer, I’ve heard and seen some questionable activity around K.K. & Lincoln Ave. over the years. It’s debatable who causes more trouble – bar and restaurant patrons who can’t control their alcohol, or so-called “disturbed” and/or “disabled” folks allegedly from the city Housing Authority building on S. Howell Ave. In my opinion, the LAST thing we need there is another BAR. I would oppose that before a day care center.
As a long time LuLu’s patron, I’m especially disappointed to read Cameryne Roberts say “ We feel that this type of business adds nothing positive to our community . . .”
Boy, go to a nursing home, dementia care, adult care facility and you will find hard working, underpaid people taking care of your parents, your family members, your neighbors, your community. And if you live long enough, taking care of yourself. That’s all positive, all good.
So LuLu’s is concerned about losing business because an adult day care center locates nearby. It appears their adamant opposition has already ensured that loss.
AK on Fri, 5th Aug 2011 10:02 am
All of you do realize that the current regulations on adult day care centers do not even require certification, much less special training to deal with problems/safety that may arise?
This woman is not even a CNA much less a nurse. You are better off getting a CNA to come to your house to care for your loved one than let some untrained individual feed them and have them choke to death. Places like this exploit the disabled, and that’s why I think it’s going to be trouble.
St. Ann’s is a nursing facility. It’s different.
M Allen on Fri, 5th Aug 2011 10:24 am
Obviously, a shoddy operation run by unqualified people is not acceptable. The opposition seems to be about just the very idea of a adult day care center. I’m certainly not qualified to judge the potential quality of the proposed business. It doesn’t appear that any of the opponents are either, unless they know something they’re not saying. I assume the city and/or state has the regulatory authority here. It is all in the details, isn’t it, not just a gut reaction based on fear.
AK on Sat, 6th Aug 2011 6:23 pm
From http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/rl_dsl/Adultdaycare/AdultDCintro.htm
“ADULT DAY CARE: A day program that provides the elderly and other adults with services when their caregivers are at work or need relief. Only those adult day care programs seeking to serve one or more participants with (medicare) Waiver fundings are required to be certified. ”
http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/rl_dsl/Adultdaycare/ADCinqResp.htm
“Adult Day Care certification is voluntary. You do not need certification unless you plan to serve one or more participants who receive Medicaid Waiver funding from a county”
So basically, anyone off the street can start one of these and take old people’s money, while not really providing them a safe place. I’m a nursing student, and as much as I don’t like nursing facilities, these places are even more unsafe. The lack of training required is also unsafe for the surrounding community depending on the people served.
FlavorDav on Tue, 16th Aug 2011 4:24 am
Baby Boomers ISN’T an adult day care center? They open at 7:00 a.m. I suspect they simply don’t want the competition.
Peterious on Tue, 16th Aug 2011 8:35 pm
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=148011735284247&pending
Are you outraged, want to send the message that we won’t tolerate ignorance and discrimination in Bayview?
Peterious on Tue, 16th Aug 2011 9:11 pm
These “What-ifs” about the facility are ridiculous. I am quite sure if the building needs work, it will be attended to. There is lots of red tape to these things, and if there are problems with this proposed this proposed facility that is why we ADVOCATE for our fellow human beings and make sure that these problems are solved. As for the Lincoln Ct. building, that is a totally separate issue. That facility is a 24/7 living facility and the circumstances of a living facility are different and should be dealt with on an individual basis. I think those in opposition are just fishing for excuses to be against this due to ignorance or fear. I am disappointed in this, as a former Bayview resident I expected much more tolerance. I will never be stepping foot in Lulu, Tonic or Baby Boomers again and I have been urging my friends to do the same.
Ann on Thu, 18th Aug 2011 4:06 pm
I am truly disgusted by the opposition to this. I also want to thank the compass for clarifying that they are not looking to set up a treatment facility for drug abusers and child molesters.
I like many readers here would like to know which businesses signed this petition so that I may take my business elsewhere. I will also be sure to send a link to my cousin who patronizes Lulus on Bike night. He lost his mother to Alzheimer’s and his father died from the stress from caring for her. He sure could have used a facility like this one.
And Bravo to the posters here who mentioned the behavior of some of these protester’s companies clientele. Pot meet kettle.
Ann on Thu, 18th Aug 2011 4:08 pm
Oh, and furthermore, I would expect this kind of behavior from people in the lily white ultra conservative suburbs, not Bay View. Shame on all of you.